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February 01, 2009

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AmericanRuth

I like your last line! ;)

And your suggestion that maybe she thought she'd be saved like Isaac was. Yeeks.

I once watched on-line a sermon by Renita Weems, which agreed with you in terms of not accepting that this was right or good. I hope it's ok to quote her here, just as additional material for smoking in the pipe, as it were.

In his zeal to prove that he was a man of honor he convinced himself that sacrificing his daughter’s life was the right thing to do. ... I am reminded of something Jesus once said to his disciples: They will put you out of the synagogues; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God (John 16:2). Not only enemies, but friends, fellow believers of God will dis-fellowship you from their temples and synagogues, excommunicate you from their churches, turn their backs on you thinking they are doing the will of God. Assassins will assassinate claiming to be following God’s will. Parents will banish their children that are homosexual, they married someone different, because of some perceived wrong, thinking they are doing the will of God. Sincere, but wrong.

one billion daleks

Well, there's a LOT going on in that post! :)

My own equivalent counter-attack on the 'cultural-conditioning' that originally indoctrinated me was um, a little more low-key than yours ...

As I recall, my approach went something along the lines of ...

"Hey, how come there aren't any jokes in The Bible ...?!"

Obviously, everyone is subjected to cultural indoctrination of one kind or another, it's the glue that binds societies together. But at the personal level, it's also a mechanism for providing us with a set of ready-made 'off-the-shelf' bearings for initially establishing us in the world, during our early years, before we have acquired the ability to 'think for ourselves'.

And the fact that you are now doing that - thinking for yourself - is a sign that you're now ready to navigate on your own behalf, that you no longer have any need for what are, after all ... easily-critiqued, half-baked 'off-the-shelf' doctrines for undeveloped childlike minds. It's all quite normal to go through this phase y'know! :)

But in that respect, it can be helpful to remember that Jephthah was - in his turn - a product (and victim) of the culture he grew up in. Even today, "Honour" killings of young women is regrettably a routine occurence throughout the Middle East.

And perhaps the act of writing down his story in the Old Testament was Jephthah's way of blogging - it may have been cathartic for him - as like yourself, he grappled with the consequences of his own cultural indoctrinations.

So in a very odd sort of way, perhaps you have something in common with Jephthah after all ...

Sooner or later we all create our OWN 'culture', one that reflects our own values, rather than the second-hand values handed down from a bunch of desert nomads from several thousand years ago. And I have to say - one positive consequence of this process is that I am delighted not to have slaughtered any Ammonites lately!

Oh, and to correct that glaring omission of humour in The Bible, I have er, been spreading it about that that due to all the unfair bad press they'd received over the years, one of the Four Horsemen of The Apocalypse (Pestilence I think it is), has decided to rename his horse Fluffy ...

OK then,
Ciao for now! :)

Heather

I think this is it, C. You now have enough Texts of Terror to collect them into a manuscript and submitting for publication.

maggi

you should publish this. :)

sonja

Wow ... well done.

I'd say this however, I think God did not step in and "save" Jepthah's daughter as he did Isaac because he never asked for the sacrifice. That was J's rather putrid and grandiose idea. We're not told anything about God in the whole text, other than that both J and his daughter were blindly obedient to a vow to God. So that's really one step removed from God. It could be that God was hoping that one of them was going to save her themselves from the stupid vow.

Maybe the whole story is in the Bible itself as a cautionary tale, rather than a tale about how we're supposed to be blindly obedient.

Maybe you are getting the right ideas out of it afterall ... and our pastors have been reading it wrong all along.

Vinaigrette Girl

Just discovered your wonderful blog; thank you for posting. And I do hope you find a publisher for your Texts of Terror series.

Westerngirl

I think this story after reading it is a cautionary tale. No doubt Jephthah seemed to have his own world view. (Like people in this day and age). For example he only had one child something which was out of ordinary in that day and age. However, one moral of the story would be zeal based on ignorance will lead to disaster. Had he known mosaic law he would know human sacrifice was an adomination and that a priest must perform the sacrifice. It is clear when reading Judges 10 and seeing the spirit of God come upon him that God already decided to give him victory. He did not need to make this vow and God did not expect him to make a vow.

Liz

Westerngirl, that is a VERY interesting interpretation of this. I always get very skittish when people start discrediting scripture because of their own backgrounds. Especially with the OT, it is far, far too easy to strip the texts of their divine nature in an attempt to squeeze things into our own experience. I have found it is always good to step back and say that I am going to trust the reliability of the document and trust God that there is a reason this is in the Bible and then ask Him to reveal that to me. If I even need to know. It is too easy to let our own bad experiences lead us away from biblical orthodoxy when something in the Bible appears to contradict a God who cares for and loves us.
You are absolutely right: NO WHERE in the bible is human sacrifice (other than that of Jesus himself) condoned. There are other pieces too, as you pointed out.
BTW, I found this blog through completely non religious channels: I was looking for examples of phoenix tattoos on forearms.
Yours is beautiful

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